What is your favorite kind of oil to use?

woo · Post by **woo** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:37 am

nope, its what my car came with stock. I think its got something to do with the hot climate over here

headly · Post by **headly** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:32 am

Man Im thinkin you opened a can of worms here !! this post may end up being the longest post ever !!

After the free 3 year service period, I used Shell Helix Ultra 5w40 (if its good enough for a ferrari then its good enough for Lenny Lanos !!) I found it "gave" a little more mid range torque but it also started burning through and was a little costly, Ive also been told from numerous sources that unless you're doing high rev turbo killing stuff full synth isnt really value for money. I swapped recently to shell helix 20w50 but Im starting to think this may be a little too thick. I use a valvoline high performance filter.

As a side note, I just replaced the oil in my other car (Kia Carnival 2.5 V6 quad cam) with Penrite HPR10 (10w40) semi synth, so if anyone is interested in this oil I can keep you posted, let me know.

mocpac · Post by **mocpac** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:51 pm

Audacityracing wrote:plain jane fram filter

quaker state Q 10 w30

+1

Nubira2.2 · Post by **Nubira2.2** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:30 pm

Valvoline 10W30

ACDelco Oil Filter

genie47 · Post by **genie47** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:46 pm

mrbnew wrote:I ran 5w-30 until it started burning it. (around 50k miles) Every time I went to change the oil at 3k miles it was a quart low. I switched to 10w-30 and now it doesn't burn a drop.

Quite obvious that the 5W30 is loaded with viscosity index improvers. Explains why it burned off. 10W30 has significantly less of that stuff but not recommended when you encounter hard winters. Synthetic 10W30 is know to be devoid of this stuff so they are very high temperature stable.

genie47 · Post by **genie47** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:51 pm

Stock Korean GM oil filter

Schaeffer Supreme 7000 10W30.

Actually the stock Korean GM filter is very good stuff. Comes in a box and the filter opening is covered with shrink wrapped plastic to protect it from contaminants.

The Opel filter which also fits my Aveo is less impressive. No plastic shrink wrap cover and it is so much more expensive.

MMamdouh · Post by **MMamdouh** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:07 pm

the Mahle filter got 6 ports rather than the 4 ports on the OEM filter and it is 11% cheaper as well... no plastic cover on it though.

MMamdouh

genie47 · Post by **genie47** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:16 pm

JohnnyC wrote:
Audacityracing wrote:i didn't list a weigth because i chnge it according to the seasons and according to the level of engine usage i expect.
Hmmm So what different ones do you use in different seasons?

I would guess he would use a 10W30 to 10W40 for summer because the heat will thin out the oil.

5W20 or 5W30 in winter because these don't freeze. BTW, the lowest GMDAT cars spec are 5W30. The whole world is watching if GM will recommend 5W20. Toyota has jumped into the bandwagon already.

genie47 · Post by **genie47** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:23 pm

Can't get a PF47 equivalent with Mahle, Hengst, Mann-Hummelt or Knect here. They only stock them for MB and BMWs.

So the cheapest I can find is the GMDAT PF47 equivalent. However, it did occur to me to order a 12/case load of Wix from the US before.

Anyway of special interest with GMDAT car owners in the US. This is a list of which company makes which filter.

Fram
Fram Extra Guard (std)
Fram Tough Guard (different media?)
Fram X2 (Silicone ADBV, Fuzzy media)
Fram Extended Guard(same as the X2)
Mileguard (Jiffy)
Honda (although some are alleged to be made by Filtech)
Chrysler line up except for the Cummins
Penzoil
Deffense
Canadian Tire

Champion Labs
Bosch
Car and Driver
Deutsch
Mobil 1
STP
SuperTech
K&N
Valvoline filters
Mighty
Service Champ
Lee
AutoZone Value Craft
Some AC Delco
VW (some)
Warner
Luberfiner
Trust

Wix
Carquest blue
Carquest red
Napa Gold
Napa Silver (lower quality with nitrile ADBV)
Kralinator (in Canada)
ALLIANCE (Freightliner aftermarket)

Purolator (Arvin Meritor)
Purolator premium plus (nitrile adbv)
Purolator Pure One (silicone adbv, different media)
Havoline
Maxlife Valvoline (some)
Group7
Promotive
Powerflow
Quaker State (less media)
Advanced Auto Total Grip. (less media)
Pep Boys Pro Line
MotorCraft
Superflo

Denso
Toyota

Mann+Hummel
Mann
Volvo

Clarcor
Baldwin
Hastings
Amsoil
Casite

genie47 · Post by **genie47** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:36 pm

Mmamdouh

Not all oil filters are equal. Actually the holes don't really matter. It is the amount of filter material packed inside.

A case in point as this post highlights in BITOG forums: http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ult ... 6;t=002343

The OEM Hyundai filter is 82" long, 1.5" wide for 123 sq inches
The Supertech compatible is 38.5" long, 1" wide for a amazing 38.5 sq inches. About 1/3 the OEM.

But since you are using a Mahle, no question it is a quality filter.

So actually if you can't get the OEM cheaply, find a quality compatible but make sure it is some brand you trust like Wix.

I've not tried Fram but I heard very bad talk about them.

genie47 · Post by **genie47** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:44 pm

Oh yes, forgot. The filters on GMDAT cars are PF47. If you cannot get PF47, the PF52 used in many GM V6 automobiles can be substituted as someone did above. The threads are exactly the same but the 52 is taller. Make sure you got some engine bay room for it.

The oil filters are full flow. They do not have the anti-drain back valve (ADBV). Most filters in the US equivalent to the PF47 and 52 have ADBVs.

Audacity Racing · Post by **Audacity Racing** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:58 pm

i need to mention i also use a stainless steel screen on my oil filter to inspect the oil passing for any debris.

and yes.... 5w30 for winter and 10w40 for summer. in the winter it's for start-up protection though as it heats up it gains weight and works out well in the 20 range (which is where i like the weight to be)

http://thedynoshop.net/engine_chek_oil_screens.htm

MMamdouh · Post by **MMamdouh** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:44 pm

genie47 wrote:Mmamdouh

Not all oil filters are equal. Actually the holes don't really matter. It is the amount of filter material packed inside.

indeed but if you can't move oil in/out of the filter fast enough you will restrict the flow right?... anyways i am not sure if the Mahly got more material but at least i am sure it won't have less, also i think 6 little holes will pass more oil than the 4 big holes on the OEM filter.

MMamdouh

SickDrift · Post by **SickDrift** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:52 pm

Castrol anything.