Brake Issue

BosnianLanos · Post by **BosnianLanos** » Mon May 16, 2005 7:35 pm

Yesterday, I finally did a whole brake change. I went with Brembo Rotors and Bendix Pads. Everything fit like a charm and it was a really easy job, the biggest hassle was getting my wheels off the rusted hubs after driving around without center caps for a while. But, as per the manual, during the install, I had to take off the brake hose from the caliper or else there would have been no way to get the hex tool to fit. Well, I got absent minded, and all of the fluid drained out of my system.

Now my brakes act all trippy. Not bad, but not good at all. I bled the brakes and all, but it still feels like they don't catch and hold like they should. I know there is a bedding in period, but the braking should still be ok. The main issue is that the brakes don't begin to "brake" untill I am pretty far down into the pedal, and even then, they don't have the same "smack face into dashboard" feel that my Daewoo was popular for.

What do you guys think is the issue? Should I bleed the system again? Should I wait until the bedding in period is over? Or should I do something that no car nut wants to do...take it to the mechanic

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Thanks in advance for your help.

MMamdouh · Post by **MMamdouh** » Mon May 16, 2005 7:52 pm

nope... thats all normal

you have now new rotors and pads so both are not bedded yet and that contributs to a 100% crap braking experiance so you just have to be careful during the first 200 miles or so (check the back side of the brembo box for instructions) till the bedding is done and overwith.

i would have recommended a full braking system flush to get fresh fluid into the system along with rear brakes calibration but since you spilled most of your fluid (was it that much??) then this is as good as a flush.

as for bleeding... it is a must after the brakes line was exposed to air... you don't need to bleed it agan as long as you did it right in the first attempt.

anyways you can't judge now weather you did a good bleeding job or not because the brakes already feels like crap because of the bedding thing, just wait till the recommended bedding milage is covered then start judging it... any judgment before that is simply invalid.

i remeber the first braking with the new parts on... it was simply like NO BRAKES AT ALL

and i almost hit a parked car just outside of the mechanic's shop... it would be a shame to be caught in a 1MPH accedent

in short what you are experiancing is very normal... check my feedback when i did the same job on my car.
http://www.daewootech.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2152

MMamdouh

kinkyllama · Post by **kinkyllama** » Mon May 16, 2005 8:24 pm

When i put new brake rotors/pads on my front my brakes were about as good as my stock ones untill they broke in.. but they wernt bad at all, i had no trouble

BosnianLanos · Post by **BosnianLanos** » Mon May 16, 2005 10:21 pm

I think I have a little more air in the system, cause as soon as the brakes heat up, all works well. I only have a grand total of like 3 miles on the new brakes though, just drove around my neighborhood a few times.

The Brembo rotors as well as the pads were super super smooth so I am thinking that as soon as they get scratched up from regular braking they will be better *hopes*.

As for looks, damn Brembo looks 10x better than the stock P.O.S. 2 piece rusty-as-hell rotors, they are nice and shiney and make me feel almost as good as buying the drilled/slotted rotors for 80 bucks more

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MMamdouh · Post by **MMamdouh** » Mon May 16, 2005 10:23 pm

BosnianLanos wrote:The Brembo rotors as well as the pads were super super smooth so I am thinking that as soon as they get scratched up from regular braking they will be better *hopes*.

You got that right.

MMamdouh

money · Post by **money** » Tue May 17, 2005 9:11 am

I definatly don't have the knowledge you all have about cars, but I know enough to get me by also know that bleeding brakes isn't difficult (unless your alone) so that's another way to look at it. What's a whole $2 in brake fluid vs. your whole car?

FaWEeToO · Post by **FaWEeToO** » Tue May 17, 2005 11:06 am

ok now u got me all worked up, mmamdouh any news?

BosnianLanos · Post by **BosnianLanos** » Tue May 17, 2005 2:15 pm

FaWEeToO wrote:ok now u got me all worked up, mmamdouh any news?

The brakes work well, only this morning I noticed something weird that I hope is also due to the bedding in process. After a short drive, I stopped at my friends house and damn, both wheel wells STEAMING from the pads/rotors. I don't know if this is from the extra grease that was on the rotors or pads, but it kinda freaked me out, I have never noticed that before.

HELP!

daewooluvr · Post by **daewooluvr** » Tue May 17, 2005 2:37 pm

BosnianLanos wrote:
FaWEeToO wrote:ok now u got me all worked up, mmamdouh any news?
The brakes work well, only this morning I noticed something weird that I hope is also due to the bedding in process. After a short drive, I stopped at my friends house and damn, both wheel wells STEAMING from the pads/rotors. I don't know if this is from the extra grease that was on the rotors or pads, but it kinda freaked me out, I have never noticed that before.

HELP!

are you leaking any fluid?

kinkyllama · Post by **kinkyllama** » Tue May 17, 2005 4:35 pm

BosnianLanos wrote:
FaWEeToO wrote:ok now u got me all worked up, mmamdouh any news?
The brakes work well, only this morning I noticed something weird that I hope is also due to the bedding in process. After a short drive, I stopped at my friends house and damn, both wheel wells STEAMING from the pads/rotors. I don't know if this is from the extra grease that was on the rotors or pads, but it kinda freaked me out, I have never noticed that before.

HELP!

My stock ones had smoke coming off them after my first road race after an hour.. and they were broken in really well. So i wouldnt be surprised if new pads would get like that after a couple miles

MMamdouh · Post by **MMamdouh** » Tue May 17, 2005 4:52 pm

i pushed my brakes during the bedding period a little and they smelled... i suppose they smoaked too but it was night abd i couldn't notice that.

during bedding you don't use the full pad surface for braking so a smaller area is doing the braking job not to mention that it is not holding tight on the rotor so it would smoak under normal usage.

this should not be regular thoug... you should be experiancing better braking experiance by the mile now... just be a little patent till the bedding is over and a good eye - and nose - on the brakes behavior.

MMamdouh

BosnianLanos · Post by **BosnianLanos** » Tue May 17, 2005 6:47 pm

Yes, braking is getting better as the rotors are getting visibly used by the pads, I think I still have to bleed the system a little though. I don't think I am leaking fluid, but I have to check the level. Brakes are silent and no grinding though.

FoRk · Post by **FoRk** » Tue May 17, 2005 11:00 pm

BosnianLanos wrote:
FaWEeToO wrote:ok now u got me all worked up, mmamdouh any news?
The brakes work well, only this morning I noticed something weird that I hope is also due to the bedding in process. After a short drive, I stopped at my friends house and damn, both wheel wells STEAMING from the pads/rotors. I don't know if this is from the extra grease that was on the rotors or pads, but it kinda freaked me out, I have never noticed that before.

HELP!

when i installed new rotors and pads on my eclipse, they smoked also during the break in, but thats because i was travling at a high speed (110mph) and had to come to a stop quickly, lets just say when i finally did stop my breaks looked like i was buring rubber, as in ALOT of smoke. and it was stinky

MMamdouh · Post by **MMamdouh** » Wed May 18, 2005 8:59 am

almost same conditions where i developed smoak from my brakes.

MMamdouh