Y is honda civic got more hp then lanos?

[buddha102]

they got the same engine?

does v-tec matters?

[Rodd1s]

u've got a lot to learn my friend.

[buddha102]

u've got a lot to learn my friend.

i was looking for a diffrent answer thank u very much

[Rodd1s]

u've got a lot to learn my friend.

i was looking for a diffrent answer thank u very much

i know, but i think u should first understand what exactly vtec is and how it works and then you'll understand why the vtec engine produces much more power than your average n/a engine.

here's a good starting point: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTEC

[buddha102]

[PrecisionBoost]

Lotus did most of the development work on the 1.6L DOHC.... they had it at 148hp but detuned it for both economy and emissions.

As far as honda..... perhaps you should look at this..... http://www.edmunds.com/honda/civic/history.html

Honda 1.6L made the same power as the Lanos back in the day before the VTEC system.


So when you ask as to why the Lanos 1.6L doesn't make as much power as the honda you should consider the fact that they are simply using better technology that costs more.

I bought my 2004 Lanos for $9900 Canadian dollars brand new..... the Civic was about $18,000 at the time

So.... take the $8K difference and dump it into the Lanos engine and you will have a 1.6L making well over 200hp naturally aspirated or 300hp via turbo.

[PrecisionBoost]

Here is a nice example of a 1.6L that has been designed to make serios power...... 241 hp natuarally aspirated.

http://www.daewootech.com/forum/viewtop ... sbd#p87050

[buddha102]

ive seen this kit before but i thought it was bunch of ballics

how does it work tho? i kinda doesint say on the page

I checked on the price if i get the kit to make 225 bhp then it will cost me close to $5,000... would it not be much better to get a "better" car?

[buddha102]

bah, i'll turbo the woo, would cost much less then the kit

[PrecisionBoost]

With 200+hp the Lanos would be hard to beat.

That is to say it would be quicker than 90% of the vehicles on the road.

So yes, you could get a "better" car for $5000 but it most likely won't be all that much faster than a stock lanos and it certainly would not be able to keep up with a 200hp Lanos

For example.... you could get an old Honda Civic Si with 160hp.... but a 200hp Lanos would destroy it in every way.

Hopefully you get my point, the reason I like the Daewoo's are that they are

1) Opel Drivetrain with lots of aftermarket support ( UK, Germany )
2) They have the natural ability to install a 2.0L engine ( since the Lanos shares it's chassis with the Astra MK2 which came with a C20XE )
3) They are not well known so people don't expect much of the vehicle
4) They are cheap to buy and cheap to fix

[buddha102]

i see ur point... 200hp lanos would not be that bad

how much boost can 1.6 dohc handle?

[Big Jeff]

i see ur point... 200hp lanos would not be that bad

how much boost can 1.6 dohc handle?

it would deplent on if you are planning to change the internals..

i would like to know this as i plan to turbo my 1.6,

i think i can get a turbo exhaust mani from an astro 2.0l or a corsa 1.6 turbo?
i plan to run a low boost ( 3-5 psi possible 7psi) to start with so i don't need to change the internals,

would i need to upgrade the injectors? and what about the oxygen sensor?

[buddha102]

i would recommend for 7 psi to put nubira injectors in but you could try stock injectors see if they would work

trail and error my friend trail and error

[Big Jeff]

would anyone know if i could bolt a 2.0l turbo mani too my 1.6... the exhaust port look the same as does the bolt patten

it should be safe to run on my stock injectors,

it think i will get a wideband oxygen senser just in case...
as the ecu goes, i shouldn't need a piggyback system coz of the low boost??? or am i wrong

[PrecisionBoost]

2.0L and 1.6L are not compatible.... port spacing is different.

7PSi should require larger injectors.... your power should be around 150 which is a 50% increase.

Obviously 50% more power requires 50% larger injectors.... plus you want to run rich with a turbo.... so that's even more fuel.

No piggyback required but you will need to put in a check valve as 7psi may damage your stock MAP sensor at worst and at best it will kick off a CEL.

With stock MAP your fine up to about 4psi.... after that you may end up needing to fix things up.

Another option is a bleed valve.... you run the line to the MAP but right at the map you T-Off to a grainger valve which will allow the boost to bleed off..... so when the manifold hits 7psi your map will see 4psi.

Given the ECU doesn't have fuel maps over a few PSI of boost there is absolutely no value in letting the MAP see 7psi

As far as sensors..... wideband is a really good idea.