1.5L Lanos Turbo Charge/Intercooler piping - New PICTURES!

ubuyau · Post by **ubuyau** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:11 am

Is there much difference in the material used for the intercooler/charge piping (between turbo, intercooler and throttle body)? I was going to use aluminium but that workshop fell thru, i am now going back to the place that made my exhaust manifold adaptor and downpipe to make me up some thin wall stainless steel charge pipes (2 inch from turbo to IC and IC to the throttle body with a silicon reducer to the throttle body (2inch to 2 1/4 inch for the throttle body)) .

Wanted to know what other people used and what the advantages/disadvantages are of each material.

--Tim

daewooluvr · Post by **daewooluvr** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:36 am

People use Aluminum because it's lighter. The problem is it's also harder to do a good weld on.

ubuyau · Post by **ubuyau** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:51 pm

Ive heard its really specialised aluminium work/welding - not many shops can do it in my area.

The shop im going to do work on alot of australian show cars, they use stainless steel - so im sure they'll do a good job - they did on the exhaust stuff in mild steel so.... ill try and post pics tomorrow if they can do it *prays* but i may be keen to get it all on and start boosting since thats the last pieces i need made for the job

We'll see.

--Tim

DomWoo · Post by **DomWoo** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:45 pm

the last thing you want to use is any kind of steel... it will get heat soaked and make hot air enter the engine

bluesheepbrian · Post by **bluesheepbrian** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:47 am

ubuyau wrote:Ive heard its really specialised aluminium work/welding - not many shops can do it in my area.

The shop im going to do work on alot of australian show cars, they use stainless steel - so im sure they'll do a good job - they did on the exhaust stuff in mild steel so.... ill try and post pics tomorrow if they can do it *prays* but i may be keen to get it all on and start boosting since thats the last pieces i need made for the job

We'll see.

--Tim

Too bad you are not here in the states, my father is an excellent welder he can weld anything.. 30+ years experience..

ubuyau · Post by **ubuyau** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 10:12 am

All done. A full day, 2 specialists working on it and $$$$ later its done!

Awsome silicon joiners, majority of it is 2 or 2 1/4 inch stainless steel pipe TIG welded - beautiful welds. Looks almost stock except for the BOV.

Im going to start putting it in tomorrow - so hopefully i can be boosting by end of next weekend (pretty busy and want to take my time)

Edit: Ill post pics tomorrow. Spent the last 2.5hrs polishing :twisted: ooo pretty

--Tim

DomWoo · Post by **DomWoo** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:49 pm

hmm.. that doesnt sound good man.. steel isnt good for charge pipes at all

kinkyllama · Post by **kinkyllama** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 8:25 pm

Doesnt steel conduct heat? and weight alot?

ubuyau · Post by **ubuyau** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 10:06 pm

Its thin wall stainless steel. Im sure it might not be the best material to use for this application (i know aluminium is the stuff but if you cant get it...) but it is well light enough and it is really good quality stuff.

The place i went to works on alot of show cars and hi-performance applications so even tho it might not be the best material to use from an engineering perspective, itll do the job perfectly.

Plus the place has a guy who only does charge pipes for custom turbo installs in stainless so...

Not trying to say its as good as aluminium pipe work, but without giving the full story of hassles ive had trying to get this made up - the stainless steel piping will work a treat and was less expensive than aluminium.

--Tim

kinkyllama · Post by **kinkyllama** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:53 am

okay thats cool.. i was just giving you a heads up.

And i definitly know what you mean about hassles..

ubuyau · Post by **ubuyau** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:51 pm

Just an update - started the install phase of the turbo project today

Ive removed my old sump and put a new GM Daewoo sump with the welded Speedflow oil return fitting. That was a pretty straight forward deal, but the sump sealant stuff is about $40AU for this tiny cartridge - you probably have enough to do about 3 sumps in one little cartirdge tho.

Bolting up the turbo was a deal and a half! Using the stock manifold and a custom adaptor, and it being tight up the front with the 1.5L being so close to the fans, there was precious little space to swing a spanner and it made it incredibly difficult.

The oil sandwich adaptor with christmas tree/ghetto oil feed T-setup fitted without to many problems.

Im going to try and do a bit each day after work so hopefully ill be boosting next weekend. The problem is everything is so tight there (1.5L which has no room at the front and the TD04) and to tighten any bolt i need undo a half dozen things to get to it. Ahh well - itll be worth it im sure!

Still no time for pics, but they'll come

--Tim

ubuyau · Post by **ubuyau** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 11:21 am

Its finished! Got it all plumbed up and the turbo runs awesome. Aside from a little issue with the O-ring on the oil sandwich adaptor which saw me lose two engine fulls of oil (8 Litres), the install went quite painlessly but everything is so small on space.

I havent pushed it hard yet but it certainly surges really well @ 6 pound.

I didnt bother with the new nubira injectors i bought yet, the malpassi regulator is working fine for fuel with no pinging and good A/f ratios....

Pics to come.

--Tim

AcingTeam · Post by **AcingTeam** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:04 pm

ubuyau wrote:Its finished! Got it all plumbed up and the turbo runs awesome. Aside from a little issue with the O-ring on the oil sandwich adaptor which saw me lose two engine fulls of oil (8 Litres), the install went quite painlessly but everything is so small on space.

I havent pushed it hard yet but it certainly surges really well @ 6 pound.

I didnt bother with the new nubira injectors i bought yet, the malpassi regulator is working fine for fuel with no pinging and good A/f ratios....

Pics to come.

--Tim

What car do you drive?

ubuyau · Post by **ubuyau** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:17 pm

A15SMS 1.5L SOHC 8v Daewoo Lanos SE hatch with MT.

--Tim

Me · Post by Me » Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:28 am

for the charge pipes you can use anything ive seen temporary exhausts(the flexable kind) to PVC so im sure youll wont have any more problems than anyone else.