Clutch dilemma/solved

Maximus · Post by **Maximus** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:56 am

Rigt now my car is getting a turbo upgrade and while it s standing in the garage I want to change my clutch as I am sure that the OEM one will not last long...

Do you know if a clutch from Astra GSi will fit ??? I mean an OEM clutch from Sachs for example but dedicated to Astra GSi. Astra has 190 Nm stock so if I will have smth like 220 Nm of torque from tubo the clutch schould be just fine.

mocpac · Post by **mocpac** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 12:45 pm

try w\ the nubira clutch

Maximus · Post by **Maximus** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 8:08 pm

mocpac_ser wrote:try w\ the nubira clutch

It is the same as well as the tranny... I want smth really strong that will manage a lot of aditional torque

mocpac · Post by **mocpac** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 8:41 pm

Well this are GM tranny they resist enougth torque. That is what I hear.

Maximus · Post by **Maximus** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 3:53 pm

mocpac_ser wrote:Well this are GM tranny they resist enougth torque. That is what I hear.

So yu heard wrong

Maximus · Post by **Maximus** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 9:16 am

Comon guys

wat do you all think, will the Astra GSi or Vectra 2.0 clutch fit my gear box

john s · Post by **john s** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 11:33 am

Why not make your own one from a original clutch and change the organic what you now call it for 4 pcuk sinter?.

Maximus · Post by **Maximus** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 2:58 pm

I thought about it but... The gear box can colapse faster, this cluth will not last as long as the one from Astra/Vectra and it will not be that pleasurable to drive with clutch like that in a trafic jam

Post by **Efratech** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:54 am

first of all the outside diameter of the Nubira D20 Clutch is 10 mm wider than your D16s clutch thanks to a bigger flywheel... i really dont know if you can use it... (i must say no) but if you can youll have to change also your friction plate and flywheel....

but like john s says... its better that you get a custom made one... and it would not kill your transmision faster... i dont know why youre so afraid...

again i have a custom "stage 4" bronce clutch with out springs... and yes its a bit not to good to drive in traffic jams... but you get used to it... but thats the price you pay for more power... it grips 3 times better than any standart clutch... i have like one year with it... the only change was my friction plate thanks to this clutch... but my manual tranny has 3 years... my car used to be a 1.5 auto

with your turbo set up youll burn your standart clutch looking for better launches at the lights/track (you know... the smell of a burned clutch)... with a custom clutch you can "play" and this will not happen and you will get a faster response of the car... its worth it...

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from the service training manual:
Clutch data:
Application - D16 (1.5 8v) / D16 (1.6 16v) / D20 (2.0 16v)
Type -   Single Dry plate for all models
Outside diameter - 200mm / 215mm / 225 mm
Inside diameter - 134 mm / 145 mm /- 150mm
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GsiTurbo · Post by **GsiTurbo** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:25 pm

Hmm...what I have noticed when I had the 1.6l and 2.0l Lemans' engines apart, is that they share the same flywheel (at least it appeared so). While the 1.6l did have a smaller clutch, there was plently of unused space on the outer diameter. I then 'test fitted' 2.0 larger clutch and pressure plate onto the 1.6 flywheel, and everything lined up perfectly. I can therefore assume you can use 2.0l clutch/pressure plate on the 1.6 flywheel.

What I would do, is that I would have order 1.6l pressure plate/clutch as well as 2.0l pressure plate/clutch. I would then compare the inside spline, as well as bolt pattern on the pressure plate. Altough I am 99% confident this IS going to work, there might be a small changes in design between north american and euro-specs models.

Good luck!

Maximus · Post by **Maximus** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:11 pm

I have decided that I'll have a 4 sinter clutch made of mine. It will cos me 250$ and I will not have my car for one day

john s · Post by **john s** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:50 pm

I have done just that but havent tested the car yet (becouse its not finisht). Dont know if it will be hard to drive but i hope it will be.. its more fun that way

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Maximus · Post by **Maximus** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 6:54 pm

john s wrote:its more fun that way

Not quite when you are stuck in a huge trafic jam...

GsiTurbo · Post by **GsiTurbo** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:22 pm

LOL....yo Maximus! Sorry to hijack the thread, but I see a familiar flag next to your signature!! Good Job

Maximus · Post by **Maximus** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 8:15 pm

GsiTurbo wrote:LOL....yo Maximus! Sorry to hijack the thread, but I see a familiar flag next to your signature!! Good Job

hehe I hope you don't mind me borrowing it...