F28 Swap... Yes i'm Serious

KnightWalace · Post by **KnightWalace** » Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:50 pm

I'm really Scrounging up the moulah to grab one of these. I'm figuring i'll need the F28, i dont think i'm going to do that AWD conversion... atleast not yet.

1) ECU, i hear the manual and automatic ECU's are different ( I Have automatic currently)
2)Tranny.
3) anything else i'll need?

Wolf-Spirit · Post by **Wolf-Spirit** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 9:07 am

clutch and flywheel ?

rest i think ya got everything.. but dno wich clutch or flywheel ya need to bolt that tranny up though... something for erfain or stefan

KnightWalace · Post by **KnightWalace** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:09 pm

I Figure the Clutch and Flywheel of the C20LET engine will be a necesity in that case. But the ECU's are different... would i have to throw a Lanos Manual Tranny ECU in before i can?

Clutch, Clutch Pedal, Flywheel, Tranny,

Post by **Efratech** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:43 pm

There's no ECU for the manual transmisions....

The Thing about the F28 are the CV joints/driveshafts... honestly i dont know if they're the same as the F16/F20/D16/D20...

If they're the same you'll only need some mechanical parts such as:

- Clutch Pedal
- Flywheel, clutch (its suppose to come with the engine)
- Tranny (driveshafts/CV joints)
- clutch cable

Also you'll have to convert to F28 AWD to FWD...

KnightWalace · Post by **KnightWalace** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:02 pm

should they meet up... a perfect simple swap... or is the connection different as to that of a F16?

Stefan · Post by **Stefan** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 6:06 pm

There's no point fitting one to your engine now, wait untill you've got a more powerful engine built. Why? Well the F28 has more transmission losses than the F16, it's also alot heavier. With less power to the wheels and a heavier car you'll be going slower....
If you can get one, keep it in the garage untill the turbo engine is built.

Stef

Post by **Efratech** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 6:24 pm

Well i tought he was collecting some info before he tryes something silly....

Stefan · Post by **Stefan** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 6:35 pm

It would be better if he saved longer and then bought a F28............with a LET attached to it. It'd solve any flywheel/clutch issues.
The driveshafts are equal length with the 'long' side consisting of a intermediate or quill shaft and then the driveshaft. The quill shaft is supported by a bearing housing bolted to the back of the block half way along.
Converting from 4wd drive to 2wd is a case of removing the transfer box from the output of the gearbox and modifying the seal retainer. I have the conversion in a mag which I could scan for you.

Stef

Post by **Efratech** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 7:30 pm

Stefan wrote:I have the conversion in a mag which I could scan for you.
Stef

Rock on! mate!

Stefan · Post by **Stefan** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 8:15 pm

Efrain A. wrote:
Stefan wrote:I have the conversion in a mag which I could scan for you.
Stef
Rock on! mate!

I'll try and find it tomorrow and put up a post for it.

Stef

Post by **PrecisionBoost** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:08 am

If the CV joints and driveshafts don't line up there must be an aftermarket replacement for those dropping the C20LET/F28 into the Astra/Kadette

If you plan to make a pile more power it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to get stronger aftermarket driveshafts anyways.

I thought I remember seeing something on the courtenay sport website about drive shafts.... http://www.courtenaysport.co.uk/default.htm

Hmmm... I don't see it but then again their site is allways a pain to navigate.... I never seem to find what I want.... I checked around and I can't see anything to do with transmissions.... I swear they used to sell AWD to FWD conversion kits for the F28.

Just a hint there are parts both in the PRODUCTS and TUNING links.... have fun looking

AcingTeam · Post by **AcingTeam** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:13 am

the only thing that came up for "F28" seach was Limited Slip Diffentials...hmmm.

Stefan · Post by **Stefan** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:54 am

The CV joints and driveshafts will swap straight into an Astra/Kadet/Lemans as long as the struts have the big bearings/hubs. These were in Astra/Kadet/Lemans with 1.8L engines and bigger. With smaller capacity cars you need to swap struts too.

Stef

Post by **Efratech** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:38 pm

Stefan wrote:The CV joints and driveshafts will swap straight into an Astra/Kadet/Lemans as long as the struts have the big bearings/hubs. These were in Astra/Kadet/Lemans with 1.8L engines and bigger. With smaller capacity cars you need to swap struts too.

Stef

Strange but when i change my clutch some months ago... i did also changed the struts (hub/bearings) from a 1.6 DOHC Lanos... they seem to be Bigger than the old ones i had (1.5l) since now im using 1.6 16v CV joints...

So it seems that the 1.6 DOHC lanos has the Big bearings/hubs...

daewooluvr · Post by **daewooluvr** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 7:29 pm

Efrain A. wrote: So it seems that the 1.6 DOHC lanos has the Big bearings/hubs...

that's good news for most of us